tore, you seem like an intelligent person. i would like to explain my position on this in a way that you might understand.
i live in canada. in my first post in this thread (at least i think it was the first one... and in this thread) i mentioned PAUL HELLYER and his associates. Paul Hellyer is the former Canadian Defense Minister and also served as deputy PM under Trudeau. my father has known who paul hellyer is for probably 40 or 50 years. he's not some random dude citing stuff he's heard on the net or creating far-fetched notions pertaining to beings from other planets/dimensions/densities. he's been a functioning member in canada's government for several decades, and many people see him as a staple in our system in one way or another.
anyway, i was looking around at some stuff a buddy showed me when i stumbled across a video of Hellyer speaking at the Exopolitics conference. up until that point, i was probably more skeptical than you. then i took some of what he said, some names he'd mentioned, and took it some steps further, and now i think if i denied the likelihood of any of what he claims, i would be lost.
i'm not going to try and convert you. i've heard many MANY things pertaining to this subject and in order to have any understanding at all, you need to go do the research yourself. many hours of it. it's very complicated and not something i or (likely) anyone else on this forum is qualified to talk to skeptics about.
in order to get a skeptic to believe in aliens, one would need to get one to pay the skeptic a visit. i don't have the resources for this. and i especially have no interest trying to get someone to go see for themselves when they just wanna hang out on music banter and express their opinion which has been influenced only by opposing biases.
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