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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN
go on and leave any time, you'd be better off
"everyone's" perceptions regarding "everything?" cut this shit out - people are not possessed by a huge god damn hive mind. plenty of people realise "pop"/material culture is full of shit. believe it or not every individual has a CHOICE to compare themselves to the body images, personality types, roles, etc., that they are presented with, or not to. it's up to each individual to choose their own standards/role models and values for themselves. obviously most just take the default and use what society presents them with. they don't realise that the choice is theirs (uneducated) or they're stupid; or they are surrounded by so many people endoctrinated in the predominant material cultural values (look good, get money, bling bling etc etc) that it's overwhelming to change. i suppose this is what you're bitching about mainly. i view those who unthinkingly accept such cultural values with contempt as well, but it doesn't change the fact that the choice is theirs.
well i'm not a fan of you either and you've not got the balls to, i reckon
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"The choice is theirs" really is the worst excuse ever. I realise that they make the choice, I'm not saying it's brainwashing so much as that people who really get satisfaction on spending their days insulting people more successful and attractive than they are are just collectively stupid wastes of air. I'm not just blaming pop culture for this issue but everyone really.
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yeah they're regular hitlers. i'm sure she was kicking and screaming as they dragged her to the makeover camp against her will.
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I was referring to the distasteful comments.
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really? most all the comments i've seen about her appearance refer to the fact that she looks like a fucking horse. that said i don't really involve myself in environments where people would talk about sarah jessica parker frequently. stop using the term "anti-semite/ic," it makes you look like a retard because "semite" refers to a group much larger than just jews. i know "everyone else" does it, big deal - everyone else should stop as well.
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People put extra emphasis on the "jew nose". Also I'll use "anti-jewish" if that makes you happy mr politically correct all of a f*cking sudden.
It's not that people find her unattractive which is understandable, it's how people use that to attack her character, someone they don't even know. And I know that TMZ and Popeater is f*cking trash, but the people who comment there are terrifyingly real people and it amazes me that they can HATE a woman for being unattractive.
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the "complete annihilation of social etiquette," really? because people rag on peoples' appearances on the internet? gee whiz living in the apparent ethical void of the 21st century sure is rough.
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Well I know a lot of people my age really are like that in the real world. Again that's desensitization, we're used to all the offensive stuff so we become less restrained in our daily lives and no longer care about the negative effects of wreckless language, it's all about being cool.
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"so many" whores and plastic surgery addicts? well on the subject of "whores," (you do realise that by using this term instead of say, prostitute or sex worker, you are supporting the negative treatment of those people) how do you know there are more now relative to another time period? even talking about sex workers has little to do with self-esteem damaged by society's/men's harsh standards: do you think Sally dropped out of college and became a prostitute because her brother and his friends ragged on her jew nose? because all the women on billboards are hotter than she is? not likely. i'm guessing people get involved in the sex trade because: 1. they're poor and don't have better options, 2. they're forced, or 3. they don't have a problem fucking for cash.
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I'm not really saying we are worse off now than before, though we really are. But I'm saying that probably most men are either to stupid to realise the consequences of their behavior and how it effects women and society as a whole or rather they just don't care because that comes with the job of being frat boy scum.
There's a lot of women with obvious self esteem issues, it's why they become attention whores and thrive for something to fill in the emotional void. Yeah, I do think women like that hills chick become plastic surgery addicts because they have been too often picked on for their jew nose or whatever.
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plastic surgery has never been as available as it is now (i should expect). that's probably why so many people use it.
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So you don't think it's in anyway related to all the shallow douchebags who nickpick the hell out of even the most insignificant physical features on women?