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i've been putting this off, cuz it's probably going to be a long one. so here goes:

to mr.dave: my friend has not swapped batteries out for a bigger one. the reason being that he needs what is called a "deep cell" battery, which apparently is necessary for the purpose of starting with a battery which has been 100% drained. they cost $200, and apparently he will be getting one soon, so more on that later.

the batteries he's using are 12V.

$10-12 million for a commercial prototype is a pretty solid deal. car manufacturers like ford and dodge put upwards of 500 million of r&d into their engines alone every year, and engines have been around for a long time.

concerning the term "back EMF," i looked into it, and it's not actually a term. BUT, it is used in Bedini's patent descriptions, as it was the only way the patent office could circumvent creating new science in order to describe the phenomenal behaviour of his devices.

concerning the "inherent greed" serving as the driver for such projects: that's pretty f*uckin black and white man. no offense, but you saying that says more about you than it does the people involved in these projects. take bedini. he doesn't want ANYTHING for the information he provides people. he just wants people to build them instead of creating arguments based around a science which is not yet fully understood.

and then take a look at the rest of the world, which is based FUNDAMENTALLY on what you are casting blame on free energy freaks for, which is capitalism. "inherent greed" can easily be viewed under the light as something inherently human (something i flat out don't agree with, but cite as testament to the fact that people in today's world equate their time with as many means as possible that they can acquire the stuff of life with), and to say that these people (the free energy freaks) are somehow more abominable than anyone else when they ACTUALLY TRY to SELL their product (note that many of these people want no light shed on their personal lives, because free energy machines are what is known in the world of economics as "disruptive technology" and happens to be one of the things black-ops and the CIA might kill you for) to make a living, is flat out ignorant.

in the world we currently live in, you invent something great, you make a killing. and if you don't invent something and you're not in a certain kinda bloodline, then you're just a b*tch like the rest of us, scrambling to PAY THE ENERGY BILL.


on to vegangelica: again, you put too much trust in the providers of information. wikipedia is a mindf*ck. it's a novel idea. except the powers that be have this thing on their side called the federal reserve bank (which, if you don't know, you SHOULD KNOW is a PRIVATELY OWNED INSTITUTION), and that bank can give them money to do whatever they want whenever they want (if you disagree, consider the size of america's debt. that is UNPAYABLE, yet they can still funnel billions of fiat currency into the system at their will). what they want (for one thing), is for people to adopt an idea of the world that is unchanging and lends itself to ignorant social proclivities. again, wikipedia is a great idea. but when someone has the resources to tend to an outlet for usable information which is created in a open-source framework, that framework is no longer open-source. the mere fact that it claims to be open-source is candy for the taking for the makers of what we know as truth.

concerning Napier: i didn't read the article. i've already heard those arguments. the term "back EMF" is used in the patents to describe the process by which this device captures radiant energy. it's funny that Napier says in what you quoted that normal batteries can recharge a bit on their own, because that's his intuition stating plain and clear that energy can be tapped right from the environment.

more on back EMF: again, words not actually describing what is going on in the machine, or even a characteristic of the machine. it DOES work something like this though: the magnets on the rotor are all facing north out. when the space between them passes over the electromagnet, something switches somewhere from north to south very fast, and this produces a surge that is something like 700 volts. that's a big surge of energy apparently, and one that doesn't drain the input battery accordingly. this means that the non-conventional circuit happens to be arranged in such a way that is acts as a conduit for cold energy, having a larger output than one might assume. as far as how this energy is actually drawn into the output battery, that's where i get lost.

i'm sure there's more to come.