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Old 05-09-2010, 10:21 PM   #413 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by thomasracer56 View Post
well, remember vangelica, i said balanced. doesn't it occur to you why we are created as omnivores? [B]because both meat and produce are needed for the peak of human development.
Thomasracer, omnivores are organisms that are able to eat diets ranging from primarily plant-based foods to primarily meat-based foods. The healthfulness of the diet depends on whether it supplies necessary nutrients to maintain healthy development and avoid disease, not on the balance of meat and produce in the diet.

What is the source of your view that "both meat and produce are needed for the peak of human development?" This doesn't match with any literature I have read. Millions of people are ovo-lacto vegetarian, for example, and eat no meat, yet are very healthy, showing that meat is in fact not needed for peak human development. Also, since vitamin B12 can be synthesized by organic chemists, there is now no need for any animal products in the human diet.

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meat, with its fat and cholestrol, also help someone keep warm, of course in moderation, just like produce. while the body needs to not be hacking badly, it cannot afford to work with weak muscle fibers, thus is the work of protein, which in no meatless salad is found. the same science you use against me works for me.
Plants provide ample protein in the diet. Rice and beans; peanut butter and wheat; corn and beans: all easily provide all the essential and non-essential amino acids that one needs. A meatless salad of corn and beans could provide all your protein needs at a meal.

Here is an example of a research article that found that plant-based diets with grain as the main protein source supplied the protein needs of childrens and adults in India:

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Millwarda, D. J. (1999) "The nutritional value of plant-based diets in relation to human amino acid and protein requirements," Proceedings of the Nutrition Society, 58:249-260.

The adequacy of plant-based diets in developed and developing countries as sources of protein and amino acids for human subjects of all ages is examined. Protein quantity is shown not to be an issue.

When used to score plant-based diets in India, no marked deficiencies are identified. Inadequate amino acid supply is not an issue with most cereal-based diets.
CJO - Abstract - The nutritional value of plant-based diets in relation to human amino acid and protein requirements
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