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Old 09-16-2009, 03:41 PM   #200 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Janszoon View Post
Why? Believing that something infinitely more complex than the universe could exist without a creator would be infinitely more ridiculous.
The universe, as far as we know, is bound by space and time. It had a beginning, it will have an end, and it is expanding, which means that it is finite. A god, by definition, exists outside of space/time and possibly created it, so it would not need a creator. Which "proves" nothing beyond that a god is a conceptually possible cause for the start of the universe.
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