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Old 05-03-2009, 09:27 AM   #410 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SATCHMO View Post
So essentially what you're saying is that these are prime examples of weak humans:
Mahatma Ghandi
Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Mother Theresa
How many times did Ghandi beat his wifey?

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I wouldn't say that science has to dismiss religion. There's plenty of religious scientists out there. The reason it's dismissed at the moment is because so far, there's no way of testing God scientifically. However, if there is a God, then it's science's job to prove that.

I don't believe in God because I don't think the universe requires one. It's like my example here :



Believing there's no God is pretty straightforward. It assumes that the universe could get by without one and from my limited life-experience here on earth, that seems to fit quite well. Believing there is a god only starts with the assumption that there's some kind of being or conscience which has amazing power and is possibly designing our universe etc etc and trickles down into all sorts of other assumptions like about who we are and where we come from .. It's a much more advanced explanation because then you have to accept science (unless you're a tit) and religion and I've never had a religious experience or upbringing to relate it with.

For many, I guess it's the exact opposite - science carries difficult assumptions with it .. So I guess that's an important part of why people find it hard to cross from one into the other.

Does a painting need an artist? No, because a completed work speaks for itself, it needs no more interference. But that doesn't erase the fact that at some point and artist thought out and painted the work upon a canvas, little by little.
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