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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
Elliott Smith didn't even get the Oscar and it was for his work on a soundtrack - and as I stated virtually all the songs (except Miss Misery) came from Either/Or which is his only album that is critically considered his masterpiece (something I acknowledged.) Calling him highly rated is a bit silly, he isn't that acknowledged (with the exception of New Moon which was hyped for a bit in Spin magazine but Spin tends to pander to the alternative crowd anyway and they quickly forgot it) outside the indie circle and the indie circle doesn't always rate him that highly: Pitchfork: Elliott Smith: Figure 8 This isn't the worst review I've seen for him but the tone of it has been reflected by Pitchfork (and certain devout followers you know who I'm talking about boo boo, the wantas of the world) like he's some sort of melodramatic emo kid. |
I'm not sure why you keep referring to Pitchfork like it's the end all be all of who is highly rated or not but if you want to talk about Pitchfork, how about the fact that they gave his album
New Moon an 8.7/10 and listed
XO as one of the top 100 albums of the 90s?
Also, so what if he didn't win the Oscar? Being nominated and performing at the Oscars are a big deal all by itself. I don't think Bon Iver or John Martyn were ever nominated for an Oscar.
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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
The reason you've heard more praise for Bon Iver over the years...is because Bon Iver only released an album last year and you're kind of ignoring my point anyway and diving into semantics. My point was it kind of annoys me that jackhammer dismissed Elliott Smith in that manner when the same thing could be said about any of the singer/songwriters he likes. I feel it was disingenuous/dismissive of him.
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Sure the same could be said of the other singer/songwriters. If you feel that John Martyn or Bon Iver (who I'm pretty sure is not an individual singer/songwriter but rather the name of a band) are overrated you should feel free to say so. That's the whole point of this thread. And I'm sure people would be happy to debate you about it but I would hope that they wouldn't get all testy and start insulting you.