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Originally Posted by boo boo
Drake being a bad guitarist is only my subjective opinion and there's no use trying to argue that. That's not what I'm arguing.
What I'm arguing is the idea that he is more technically skilled than Fripp, Gilmour and Latimer, which is the flat out most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
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He never said he was more technically skilled.
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Well for one you're playing with other musicians. And playing at the speed and intensity of punk does demand the right amount of timing and chemestry from it's musicians.
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Yeah but on the flip side playing by yourself is equally difficult because you have to make up for all those other musicians. I've played in punk bands it doesn't demand that much timing (seeing as it's all very standard) or chemistry - it's very simplistic stuff and very formulaic.
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I'm not saying finger picking is bad, that's not what I'm saying AT ALL, it can be one of the most difficult techniques when played at virtuoso level, and many of my favorite guitarists are finger pickers, but Drake's is the most basic of finger picking. Latimer flat out destroys him as a finger picker. There's legions upon legions of country and bluegrass players who display amazing finger picking chops, Drake is not in their league at all, and he sure as hell isn't in the league of prog guitarists.
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How is Nick Drake so terrible at finger picking? Give an example.
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This is the problem, you're taking his songwriting and producing skills into acount, I'm talking about Drake purely as a guitarist. Sure making records that sound exactly like him wouldn't be easy, but it's hard to imitate anybody 100%, everybody has a little bit of uniqueness, I'll give you that. But lets take this statement and run with it, can anybody play the Smells Like Teen Spirit riff? Can just anybody make an exact duplicate of the song as Nirvana recorded it? No.
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Um...no I'm not. I don't think Nick Drake even produced Pink Moon and seeing as Pink Moon is just HIS VOICE AND HIS GUITAR yes I'm going to attribute a lot of the atmosphere to his guitar seeing as it's the only instrument involved and to add onto that point of course I'm going to take his songwriting into account. Again Pink Moon; VOICE AND GUITAR. He WROTE the guitar parts and WRITING guitar parts is vital to being a good guitarist.
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Of course, I don't think Cobain is a more technically skilled guitarist than Robert Fripp either. And even you have to agree that that saying Drake makes more technically skilled and complex music than every prog guitarist ever is an extremely ignorant and ridiculous claim.
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All he said was Drake created better melodies than them. He never said he was more complex or technical.
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You know Ethan, it wouldn't hurt to actually read the comments for once.
Now if he meant that as simply "Drake is more skilled at crafting melody than Fripp, Gilmour and Latimer", well, that's still hilariously wrong, but that goes straight down to subjective opinion and thus isn't really worth arguing about.
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You realize melody isn't restricted to technical guitar playing right? You're completely twisting his words for the purposes of your own argument. Don't take an arrogant stance with me that I didn't read his post when you're doing things like this.