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Originally Posted by boo boo
I've listened to Pink Moon, it's probably the most boring thing I've ever subjected myself to listening to (until that Okkervil River album at least), the whole thing just sounded lazy, maybe there's something to his sound that's more original than other folk singers that I didn't catch, but it just sounds like the very basic strummed and fingerpicked open chords that most folk signers use to me, the kinda stuff that every guitar teacher lectures you about before anything else.
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Most folk singers only use open chords and finger picking because there isn't much else. Vibrato generally doesn't sound good on an acoustic guitar, there's string skipping - which many including Nick Drake use and palm muting just sounds lame on an acoustic guitar. You really need to stop arguing that certain folk guitarists are bad because all they do is finger pick and strum open chords - there isn't much else to it. It isn't prog boo boo.
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There's not a lot of skill required in that kind of playing at all, I can play it, anyone can play it. Even punk rock is more demanding. Now if you say he's a good guitarist, that's your opinion and that's fine.
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You've said several times there's no skill required in what Nick Drake does and you even said you could play any of his songs before but whenever you're asked to prove it you always back away (I don't expect a different result this time but for the sake of arguing) why not prove it? Play one of his songs (of Comus' choosing.) I don't understand how you can say punk rock is more demanding anyway - finger picking isn't nearly as easy as you make it out to be.
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But Lush? His music sounds pretty damn primitive and stripped down to me. Complex? Now I know you're messing with me.
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If you're looking at complexity/lushness (in a general sense, this is ignoring Bryter Layter) in terms of how full it sounds then you're entirely missing his points. Comus is saying it takes a lot of skill to record an album with just you and your guitar and make it sound the way Pink Moon does - which is versatile and yes even, gasp! complex. Drake has a great ear for melody and chord progressions and it shows.
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More technically skilled than Fripp and Latimer? This goes beyond the boundries of having a subjective opinion and just saying something that is flat out objectively wrong. How do you expect me to take you seriously when you say things like this?
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You're putting words in his mouth now to make him look dumb. Don't do that; it's a bad habit. Comus never said he was more technically skilled than Fripp/Latimer that wasn't his argument at all. It had more to do with what I explained above and melody then the ability to shred.