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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
I think he was more getting at the fact the actual act of dropping the bombs had more to do with war than curiosity. However to use a less debatable example there was that whole black hole scare with the Large Hadron Collider last year.
Point A. I fail to see how aborted (key word here) fetuses is even worthy of an ethical debate.
Point B. In response to your example about the drug, people who are sick do give consent to take dangerous drugs if there's a chance that it will cure them. I see no reason why a consenting adult aware of the risks should be denied participating based on what others deem "ethical."
Point C. They weren't acting amorally in what they did, they were acting immorally. There is no factual reason to believe Jewish people are inferior so there is no reason to believe experimentation on them as opposed to another group of people would be more or less moral. It's absurd when people get into these slippery slope arguments. Science IS an amoral process, the scientists aren't of course but I fail to see why as long as you're not interfering with someone else's life (without it being permissiable) there should be any sort of restriction.
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A. I actually am in favor or stem-cell research, but whether you are for it or against it, it still raises ethical questions.
B. I was saying that the scientists knew that the drug could be fatal, and yes people who are terminally ill do consent to having drugs with a lot of negative side-effects, but it's (IMO) unethical to test a drug on someone that you knew could cause death as an effect of the pill.
C. It is not a fact that jews are any less human than anyone else, but it was the viewpoint of the nazis that they were no better than lab rats to be experimented on, so from their perspective they were operating amorally, but from our perspective they were operating immorally which means that innately there are ethics in science.
Even the fact that you say "as long as you're not interfering with someone else's life (without it being permissable)" means that science innately has ethics. I'm not debating
your ethical stances on science, I'm simply saying that science has ethics.