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Originally Posted by Tobias
it just seems that, and I don't mean to offend anyone here, those who are categorized as punk are less skilled by this definition, either on purpose or not.
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Well, one of the core ideas of punk is that anyone can do it. So sure a lot of punk bands aren't filled with the world's most technically proficient musicians. And rawness is also a vital part of punk but don't let that fool you into thinking these people are not skilled musicians. A lot of 7 Seconds basslines are pretty sick for example. And Bad Brains, one of the bands Sonace linked to above, are proficient jazz and reggae musicians in addition to playing punk rock.
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Originally Posted by Tobias
Like they don't care if they sound good, or whatever...
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You are confusing "clean" with "good". Music doesn't have to sound clean to sound good.