Originally Posted by jackhammer

Yeah it is a catch all term that I probably should'nt have used but one that I cannot be arsed to change. To be fair though, you don't get 'blackened alternative' or 'melodic alternative' and i think that 'indie' sub genres are more easily delineated and make sense. Whereas a genre of a genre of a genre is annoying to me. I suppose it's because i'm over 30. Everyone I know over this age finds sub sub genres ridiculous and not as clear cut as they are supposed to be. It's only an opinion though and most new metal fans like to use these sub genres, so good luck to them.