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Originally Posted by sleepy jack
I don't follow you're logic...at all. There are people who join the military to protect their home country knowing full well they may die. Are you going to say all those people are irrational too? I care about plenty of my friends well being more than I care about my own, is that irrational? I can think of plenty of instances where people place other people's lives higher on their priority list than your own and it's look at as respectable and heroic. Look at what John McCain did when he was captured are you going to say that's silly and irrational too? Besides you can reason when you're alive.
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Just because the vast majority of people think something is moral according to their moral standard, doesn't mean it is right. If morality is objective, it must be based on logic. People in the army are irrational unless they join the army because it is in their own rational self-interest. People could join the army because they have no other way out. This could be a rational reason. I also agree that you can reason when you are alive. What I said was that you can't reason when you are dead so you must protect your life in order to protect your reason.
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Besides you say you're christian, but I guess you don't believe in all that equality and golden rule crap because you're always, without a doubt number one right? According to your beliefs Jesus died so you could be saved what if he decided that placing your needs above his own was irrational and didn't do it?
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Originally Posted by Me from earlier in the thread
Now I do not follow this philosophy because I am irrational and chose religion (Christianity,) but this philosophy is the most logical philosophy out there.
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Jesus, if he was God, would not be irrational because he saw a bigger picture that humans aren't necessarily able to see. I mean, I recognize my irrationality, but that doesn't mean I want to bring that into politics or even into my intellectual life.