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Originally Posted by Crowe
Absolutely JJJ, yes. Let me explain why.
1) Patti Smith gets very, very little attention around these MB parts whereas we get Morrison GUSSSHHING in every top <insert name here> thread. We have a whole thread dedicated to his works. Now, I like Van Morrison and all, in fact I like him and his body of work A LOT... but it's nice to have a little change of pace.
2) THIS Gloria opens up one of my top 50 favorite albums "Horses", and in my opinion has superior lyrical content. The opening line "Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine" coming out of Patti Smith is chilling.
3) Number 3 being said. It's barely the same song. It only keeps the chorus of the Them original. It was much more directed towards the punk movement which Horses is considered to be a forerunner.
4) THAT being said. Notice its place on my playlist - which has just as much to do about composition rather than stuffing all of my favorite "woman themed" songs into 16 tracks. The goal here is to show a nice selection of different sounds if I remember correctly. Right after Patti's Gloria, I have the Kinks' "Lola", another English group from the same time period. I can make another whole playlist with Popular English groups from 1960-1965 with the same theme...
5) And finally. I think that Them's Gloria is boring. ESPECIALLY the live 1973 version.
I'm surprised that I was called out to defend my Patti Smith Gloria rather than my Siouxsie and the Banshees' Dear Prudence. Don't "good list and all" me either. This isn't about the textual LIST of the songs, it's about the sound as a cohesive mix... give it a listen and then we can talk lists, eh?
Love, Crowe!
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Actually I felt that Van got very little mention on here and it's always Brown Eyed Girl and Astral Weeks anyway, that's why I created the thread. But you don't need to defend your choice, I think you could tell, but I was not offended still you did provide your reasoning which was enjoyable.
I personally don't care for the Patti Smith song and love the Live version in '73. Van plays that song at every show (nearly) even still today. Rarely did he put as much effort in it as the recorded version from Too late to Stop Now. Won't argue on lyrical content that's a no-brainier.
As far as good list and all, it's simply there to set a non-abrasive tone, no slight intended or implied.