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Originally Posted by SubPop
I don't think any of them are heavy metal, but whatever you want to call them that is fine.
I can deal with Fudge Tunnel having metal attached to their name.
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Good.
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Helmet....meh I think helmets roots were more in the heavy alternative rock scene than any metal scene.
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Hence the alternative metal?
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I first saw Helmet live in 1993 and they supported Sonic Youth and Mudhoney. Hardly a metal gig. These days I think they are lumped into the metal scene as their detunned riff-o-rama sounds have been coppied by many (nu) metal bands.
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I don't see how who they went on tour with varies directly with what genre they are.
Helmet has influenced the likes of System of a Down and other current artists.
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The Melvins are not metal they never have been. If you must use that horrible word (grunge) fine they are heavy grunge but they are not metal.
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Heavy grunge?
They are grunge, but they are also heavy metal and alternative metal
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You need to realise that heavy does not mean metal.
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You talk like there's shame in being labeled metal. If they aren't metal, what are they? Enlighten me.