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Old 05-21-2008, 09:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Man. This is fun. That link is complete garbage.

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# "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."
Again, I already addressed the fact that Zeppelin covered songs but didn't credit the writers, as lowdown as that was, fair is fair. This IS a cover, not a ripoff. Even so, it sounds VERY different from both Bredons version and the Joan Baez version. The riff is not the same, and Plants vocal style is quite a different take on it.

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# "Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).
Yeah the intro and outro are uncredited covers. Everything inbetween is entirely original, and thats the part of the song thats freaking awesome.


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# "Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."
Now this is just a bullcrap shot in the dark comparison based on a very generic use of simple chords. I don't hear the similarites at all myself. This is one of the best examples of Zep haters getting desperate.

So yeah, thats how people come to the conclusion that Communication Breakdown is a stolen song, based entirely on two riffs that don't even sound alike, and what else was "stolen" you might ask? Nothing. Entirely original song. Just happens to have a similar title and thats probably where people came to the conclusion that the song is influenced by it somehow. Curse you Led Zeppelin, stealing the word "breakdown", how dare you?

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# "Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."
Once again, only the lyrics.

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# "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."
Its actually a medley of different blues songs.

Never mind that its one of the worst songs Zep ever did.

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# "How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."
Nay. Its not really a cover, just inspired by it. The riff and beat sure ass hell aren't the same. And thats what drives the song. And all they stole from The Hunter were lyrics. Hmm... I see a pattern here.

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# "In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).
Its a traditional song as in the writer is unknown, who in the hell are they gonna credit?

I guess they mean they should have called it "traditional", and that they should, yet another example of an uncredited cover, not a ripoff.

And I think I've already explained that Zeppelins covers are almost always radically different from the original songs. They make everything their own.

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# "The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.
Nope. Not a cover. They took the lyrics (lol) and yes the riff that comes in at 1:28 is clearly a homage to the song. And thats what it is, a homage. Bands can't pay homages? Then All You Need is Love is a ripoff of She Loves You, by that logic.

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# "Moby ****" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.


Whoever wrote this is just making crap up now. Its NOT a cover. The riff does sound pretty similar to Watch Your Step by Bobby Parker which is NOT a cover of The Girl I Love, She Got Long Curly Hair by Sleepy John Estes. Moby D*ck is not related to that song at all, Page simply used the riff before in a song from the BBC sessions called The Girl I love, I don't think its even a Sleepy John cover, dumbasses couldn't even get their facts straight. The riff to I Feel Fine by The Beatles also sounds very damn similar to it, just as much as the Moby D*ck riff does.

Maybe Page did steal this riff, unfortunately so did John Lennon. Small world eh?

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# "Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.
Wrong, just the lyrics, AGAIN, just the lyrics.

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# "Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.
Lyrics you say?

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# "White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."
They guys apparrently cant tell the difference between influence and covers. Its not a cover.

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And I don't have the time or the desire to go and hunt down other examples.

I am very familiar with the 8 and 12 bar blues and the blues scale. I love the blues, it's one of my favorite genres of music. Anything from Son House to Mississippi John Hurt to Reverend Gary Davis, etc. I love and enjoy listening to.

You can't complain about not being able to see examples and then get upset when some are posted. Let's keep the discussion civil, no need for animosity or name calling.
Look I'm not insulting you here, a little angry sure. But you're saying stuff without checking your facts, and you're citing sources that are biased and incredibly inaccurate, that site got a lot of things wrong. Sorry but I call bull**** when you pick an argument with me and can't back up your claims with any real facts.
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