Originally Posted by Crowquill

I can see that and thinking about it I'd rather listen to Nevermind though I don't care for either but I hardly think doing something different for one scene makes it better than an album that did something for music as a whole.



Yeah I replied saying it was irrelevant because you don't even know my opinion on those three albums. The Beatles obviously had more impact than the Velvets because the Beatles are probably the most popular band in the world but we're comparing two bands of similar popularity Beck and the Smashing Pumpkins. Odelay introduced something brand new to the music world and your argument for Siamese Dream is raised the bar...for one music scene.



I wouldn't disagree with Siamese Dream ending up on a best album of the 90s list, I never said I would even though I don't like it. I would disagree with it being placed higher than Loveless and Odelay.



I basically replied to why the Beatles would probably rank higher because their impact was much more scene and the Beatles WERE actually quite experimental and introduced tons of new things. I think a more apt comparison for Siamese Dream vs. Odelay wouldn't be two experimental albums anyway.



See I completely disagree with that. I think Odelay quite a bit of impact, though it's kind of hard to see because Odelay still sounds just like Odelay and no one's copied it but it still had enough impact to where its comparable, and I think comparing the Smashing Pumpkins impact to My Bloody Valentines's is just laughable.