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Yes, they were voted as the number one greatest HARD ROCK band of all time by VH1.
They're even classified as something of a proto heavy metal band too.
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I said Pink Floyd, not Led Zeppelin. Learn to read.
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It's exactly what I said it was:
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I quoted you exactly, don't try and play it off as something different.
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Originally Posted by Oomph!
We left off at punk is an anti-corporate, anti establishment movement and pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement, making them contradictions.
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No, the article said that the music is based on sales, the correlation between populatrity and sales is a necessary side effect, but that doesn't mean that the two concepts are one in the same. Just because popularity is required to sell doesn't mean the music is based on popularity, it is still based on sales.
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Plays and sales both tie into popularity. If you have alot of plays or sell alot of records, you're popular. I don't understand how you can be popular without those two things please explain this to me.
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Popularity is correlated to pop music but it's not the basis, it's not the cause. SELLING is the cause. Because popularity is required to sell, you're mistakenly believing it to be the cause.
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Article says plays as well and how can you be popular if your album doesn't sell and isn't played? You seem to be doing some serious back peddling right now. I'm still waiting to hear how "pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement" you still haven't explained this and seem to be still avoiding the subject.
So to re-point this out so you don't miss is this time.
Please explain where you got from that article that pop is "pop is a corporate enforcing, establishment building movement"
Please explain how a band can be popular without plays/record sales.