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just because someone does vocals doesn't mean they're good singers. personally i really like cobain's delivery. but that does NOT make him a good singer. he could scream like it was no one's business but to actually sing - not so much. being well liked by his peers doesn't make him a good singer. writing great songs does not make someone a good singer. bob dylan and leonard cohen should not be allowed near microphones.
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I repeat, most grunge bands weren't fronted by Jeff Buckley and just because someone isn't a good singer doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to make music. I like Bob Dylan's voice and think it fits his music fine. If you want to go listen to perfect pitch vocalists go turn on some overproduced Celine Dion-esque crap, some of us like vocalists with character and grit behind them.
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if anything it seems like subpop were willing to sign anyone who wanted to put something out in the seattle area. there are labels like that in my town too. they don't really give a crap about you or your band so long as you pay the bill to put your record out until you start making money for their business. and still, they've got their main bands with personal friends from high school that come first.
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Um yeah, that would be a risky business move...kind of contradictory to what you were saying earlier.
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ideally, yeah sure it would be awesome if label heads really took the time to nurture and cultivate their talent but then we'd be calling the bands corporate shills.
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Which is funny seeing as it seems like Sub Pop is all about side-projects nowadays from past artists. The Elected, Grand Archives, Band of Horses, The Postal Service, etc it's a surprisingly extensive list.
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fact is - until teen spirit, nirvana was just another seattle band. they had hooks, and a decent record. but cobain was still a junkie. hard drugs = RISK. there's little else that needs to be said on that. had he just been a pothead it probably wouldn't have been such an issue. heroin on the other hand is a big deal.
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Kurt Cobain wasn't even a fullblown addict until after Bleach.
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put yourself in the shoes of a major label A&R guy how do you sell a band with a screaming junkie and sloppy power chords to your boss? geffen basically went in on the tail end of the scene, scooped up the leftovers, scored big and then watched everyone else scrape the grime from the bottom of the barrel. the reason the other bands were being picked up first is because they seemed like safe bets - and they were. i really don't think it was an issue of nirvana trying to remain obscure. i REALLY don't think bleach would be as influential as most people consider it had there not been nevermind to compare it to.
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Are you serious? Alice in Chains was a safe bet? You're aware that their singer was a worse junkie than Cobain was right and earlier? That's not even going into the rest of the bands drug problems. Mother Love Bone's singer died of a heroin overdose. You really need to do your research before you make it off as if Cobain was the only junkie in the grunge scene, he wasn't.