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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen
No, that is true. But that doesn't make the stuff that was bad or any less worthy.
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Man you know your stuff Richard.
I reckon that the guy means that pop has never been considered as cool as rock.
It isn't lets face it. That is why putting the beatles in pop lessens them a bit in many peoples eyes in terms of a sort of cred arguement.
It doesn't when you look at it thoroughly but in general unconcious it does to many.
Some writers even said that Lennon despised the beatles early on just he wanted a life and some cash.
You know like playing hard rock and great rock covers in hamburg then dressing up like a bit of a jaffa to get friendly airplay. It wasn't really him as he was more like the stones image then the stones were.
Pop these days helps that image of MOR crap with pop idol etc.
Whereas the who and stones and kinks get more cred looking back for been real rock about adult themes that the beatles early work lacked.
But like you said b sides and that gave them a chane to sneak in what they were really about even if noone noticed including me.
Perhaps the stones were more true to themselves?????
They certainly got abuse and stick like the pistols later did for their attitude.
so they appear anti establishment and therefore better.
Not in reality but in peoples minds.
I'll have to look out for those you mentioned Richard as they are new to me.
Real love is a great song that came about in the 90's and I love the video when george and paul hug for the first meet in years and then it switches to john pulling a face in 62.
Liam gallagher said everyone considers keef the idea of rock cool but lennon in his white suit with his fooking white plimsols to do that and be cool takes something!!
ah ha ha.