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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen
Yeah. See, like, you might find this difficult to understand, but the intention of Turner's lyrics is not really to be "deep" and "meaningful". It's supposed to be entertaining and humorous.
I'm not an AM fan-bwoi. Cripes, I haven't listened to them in almost a year. But I can't avoid the need to point out that there IS a difference between Turner and somebody like Doherty. See, Alex Turner knows his limits. He has no grand pretentions about being a poet or some important cultural figure. He knows what he CAN do well, and sticks to his strengths. Pete on the other hand is this complete twonk who tries to be "relevant". *chuckle*. Poet my rear-end. Pete's writings have no political significance nor are they particularly insightful in terms of social commentary. In fact they're the typical bland issues that people have been talking about for years.
What irritates me the most about Libs fan-bwois - which is actually what you are, btw (loz, the irony!) - is that they are in no position to be thinking so highly of Doherty! The guy can hardly play his instrument; he evidently knows almost nothing about that whole songcraft thingee which is often kinda important to making good music; and then, when it comes to the one thing he does know how to do (i.e. lyrics), he's not even that good. He's hit and miss. Sometimes winners, sometimes duds - but almost never culturally significant! This guy isn't a musician. This guy isn't a 21st century Keats. He's a complete chaotic mess of an individual, about as much worth being idolized as he is being in a band with - which, suffice to say, is not very much at all.
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I agree, Pete is a terrible musician. I agree, the majority of his output doesn’t deserve anywhere near the coverage it receives. No, I don’t think he is a significant poet and not much of his stuff compares to actual acclaimed poets. Maybe if you had of actually read the thread before you ran your keyboard you would of seen I was responding to claims he has no talent and that Alex Turner has “more talent in his fingernails.”
And have you actually listened to any sort of amount of his discography? Obviously not, because you have missed a common theme in many of his songs about racism, poverty, domestic oppression and police violence. I don’t think Pete Doherty is anywhere near as good as what he is made out to be, but it just pisses me that people feel the need to hijack any thread about him to proclaim his lack of ability. It shouldn’t be too difficult to comprehend that some people may see some artistic value in his music.