Whenever I want to remind myself that punk is long dead in all but name I just think of the regressive louts of 'Oi!' Punk in the UK, and the meatheads that attacked Henry Rollins at every Black Flag gig when they showed any sign of progression in the US.
The commodification of punk was obviously what alot of people on this forum grew up with (my first gig was the Offspring), which is fair enough, I can think of worse 'first records' than 'Dookie'.
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