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Originally Posted by Crowquill
Folk is one of the oldest and most important genres ever. Dismissing it off is way different then dismissing a boring old metal band. No amount of bad analogies is going to change that.
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How did I "insult the genre" (which I have yet to do)? I have never called folk anything negative. The only thing I insulted was a guy playing an acoustic guitar, which Ethan keeps telling me isn't folk, but then says I was calling all folk pathetic even though I was only saying the former was. Anyone catch the logical fallacy?
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Originally Posted by Crowquill
This isn't even worth replying to, it's the same arrogant bull**** over and over. You're not proving anything by making stabs at how someone posts you realize that right? You've said two incredibly stupid things so far: "Emotion isn't important in music." and the most recent one "You have to know how something sounds the way it does to really understand it." You're so arrogant and ignorant it's hilarious especially seeing as you're completely unaware how stupid you sound. You take such pride in being an "*******" guess what? You're the only one that thinks it makes you look cool. *awaits stabs at taste and whatever else kids with big internet ****s say*
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Again, my words on Emotion in music are being heavily skewed by everyone taking offence to my views in this thread. It is nice to have a strawman to attack though isn't it?
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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
Emotion in music is a fine starting place, but with out real ability, it's worthless
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That's what I said. Stop ****ing misquoting me to improve your own sad arguements. My overarching point was that emotion is only an idea and without away to communicate that idea (i.e MUSIC) it's not very sharable. And the more time and effort put into the music, the more mentally and emotionally challenging the idea
can become. Keyword is can. Because you're right, there some are some intensely ****ty "technical" bands.
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Originally Posted by pheurton
The point is your blatant discretions towards folk music were all to do with one person finding one song boring hence my original reply was only showing how arrogant you actually are. I can't believe you fell for it hook line and sinker.
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Oh noes! You caught me! Of course I'm going to get riled up over this. IT'S THE ****ING INTERNET. In real life, I highly doubt I'd care enough to even make a comment. But online, where I have time to formulate what I'd say, you're damn right I'll reply to you. And you say blatant discrestions like I'm, without thinking, writing off folk. Again, I have never said (typed for you lawyers) ANYTHING negative against folk in this thread (and I'm pretty sure no where else on this site), so you can drop the attacks on that.
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Originally Posted by pheurton
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Don't try and turn around your original statement, oh and you also forgot to quote this
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Not trying to turn around anything. I merely forgot to put a not in there, which obviously changes the meaning quite immensely.
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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen
There's nothing in Cynic's entire catalogue that's compositionally superior to even the Tellytubbies theme tune. More complex/arty does not equate to superior. That's a fallacy if ever there was one. Neither does it equate to "more musical". More musical? That doesn't even mean anything. "Musicality" is not scalic, for heaven's sake. Sure, you can invent your own definition of what qualifies as musical or "more musical", or you can follow somebody else's, but it all means jack. It's a moot term. You're entitled to your viewpoint, but it's no more weighty than anybody else's.
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To the first sentence, whatever.
To the rest of it, I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over again; I have yet to insult a genre of music and say that Cynic is better. I'm extolling thier virtues and took a few shots at Ethan's ever metamorphing tastes.
Unless someone brings something new to the table, I'm done with this thread. We're arguing in circles and no one has yet to actually make a point.