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Originally Posted by bmxpunkr
I know that being mainstream automaticly means you aren't punk,
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After that line I stopped reading your post. That is the stupidest thing anyone can say. Just because a band makes music that a LOT of people like does NOT mean they can't be considered a certian genre any more. It's about the music, not who likes the music. Also, The Ramones were mainstream, if you didn't already know that.