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Old 01-02-2008, 08:56 AM   #37 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen
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Oh FFS, who cares? Popular culture, modern music, either way, Jungian psychology isn't exactly hackneyed.
Why are we focusing on the hackneyed cliched part anyway? There was no attempt to claim that EVERY topic Tool cover and all of their themes and motifs are overused (though a lot of them are indeed just that). The overriding point was that their general direction leans towards catering for the audience of a certain well-known sub-section of popular culture.

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Every band signed to a major label is, but that doesn't mean every band signed to a major label is commercial (unless you're using a different definition of the word than I).
No, I wouldn't say that every band signed to a major label is necessarily commercial. I feel that Tool in particular are a good example of a commercial band, in that they sell themselves through exploiting the opportunities offered by the existence of a particular audience.

How can it be claimed that Tool are not commercial? They're among the most notorious acts for their exceedingly strong and effective marketing ploys. They practically built up their image and cult-like following single-handedly. Maynard, Carey and co. are in many ways geniuses.

Perhaps the misunderstanding lies partly in the idea that I'm using this to slate them. I'm not. I don't think being commercial is necessarily/automatically some sort of bad, evil, devilish thing. But DENYING that a band of Tool's calibre are commercial is simply ludicrous.
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