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Originally Posted by mjscarousal
Are u talking about now or during that time?
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Both
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The Thriller vid of course was a tight vid, it was expesive and became a legend in it's self. It was the first "short film" because people wasn't making videos like that. The Thriller album was really good every track was perfect. It was equal with the vid. What in the world does that have to do with music now? The fact that its acceptable to have a so called good vid and a crappy song is no trend Thriller started. Why that is?
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Pay attention I already told you this. It was the first 'film' aimed exclusively for MTV. Don't you find it a coincidence that as soon as a music television channel launches Jackson decides to make a film that will get maximum exposure on it? He saw the opportunity to make a killing in the market & went for it. I applaud him for that. Of course this has absolutely no reflection on the quality of the music in it. And when record companies saw the potential in music videos they invested millions trying to recapture the success of that , and they succeeded. You show me one album in the 80s that sold millions without having MTV exposure.
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The music and the music vids are crap now because the music industry don't care about good music anymore. MTV will play anybody. If the vids are flashy and have some chick shaking there behind or somebody throwing money in the screen its the best vid ever. Thats what they want because thats sell. It has become acceptable to make vids like that now even if its crap and the music does no justice. If ur the hypest thing at the moment and u come out with an expensive vid, the media will praise it because ur the big talk now even when ur music is crap. Most of the artists out now are just hype and they don't live up to it.
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Well done , Just change 'some chick shaking there behind' to 'Some guy dancing with zombies' and you just summed up my opinion of Thriller right there.
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Anyway when has the last time MTV played a music video? The same with the rest of the music channels. It seems like if they say ur name three times in a row ur already a legend. Its about what sells and the look. We know this already and to be honest I guess people don't care about good music anymore because they buy the crap.
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And Thriller started this trend
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So Thriller didn't start no trend for the bad
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You just said yourself things are worse now
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it made it for the better because after thriller people started seriously choregraphing their music videos but that was around that era BUT now it just has to do with marketing and what sells, nothin to do with Thriller bro.
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You don't think that whole Thriller film was about marketing?
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Just give the man credit and stop down grading him. I can see if we were talking about an artist thats out now but were talkin about MJ, it really should be no question or disscussion of his accomplishments and achievements because at the in of the day he'll always be a legend no matter what you or anybody thinks.
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Mass produced pop is mass produced pop , doesn't matter if it came out in 1983 , 1993 or 2003. Just because you hold nostalgia for the 80s doesn't make it any better. And why shouldn't there be discussion. Just because i'm not blinded by sales figures to see what makes an album good. I would have a lot more praise for Jackson had he stayed true to his R&B roots much more like he did on Off The Wall rather than the throwaway pop he came out with later. But like you say thats just my opinion , obviously people would rather have dancing zombies than soul & passion.