The Cure and The Smiths are not pop bands to me. Ask any people who grew up in the 80's who are now in middle aged dotage listening to Phil Collins and Katie Meula etc (NOT ME BTW!) and they would never name those as pop bands. They would not class them as mainstream. Yes they sold a lot of records and had hits but not pop music in the traditional sense.
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