HEY BOO BOO
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Originally Posted by boo boo
You base your beliefs on the words of John Lennon? >_>
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Of course not, but it's a topical reference for a music site and a discussion on religion\spirituality and it helps lay out my thesis.
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That is a pretty damn pretentious thing to say.
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It's not pretentious, it's my belief. It's no more pretentious then believing in God. I don't tell people they are wrong, or that they should not believe in God. I don't insist I am right, I simply have an opinion different then yours.
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Or maybe the whole idea of us all being just a happy accident and having no actual purpose just doesn't make a whole lotta sense to people.
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The fact that you don't like a particular theory is not a reason to make another one based on no facts at all and believe it to me more logical. Calling it a happy accident is oversimplifying our understanding of our galaxy and solar system's origins quite a bit as well.
One of the major reasons I am certain all the modern religions have it wrong regardless of God's existence in any form is that they limit God to overseeing the species the Earth. Based on what we know about the Universe works and that they're all trillions of solar systems in it's infinite singularity it seems a little bit absurd to suggest this is the only one with life in some form.
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Do you realise your own mortality? Are you absolutely sure of that?
We don't know jack sh*t about our own mortality.
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Yes I do, I know I and everyone else will die here on earth. That's all I mean. Not a debatable point.
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More complicated things have influenced the development of religions than just that. People want explanations for their purpose in life, why we are here, what will happen to us when we die. Evolution while a nearly impossible theory to debunk dosen't offer explanations for any of these things. Like I said before it only disproves the whole "god created the heavens and the earth in just 7 days" thing. It dosen't disprove the existence of god. In fact god using evolution as a creative tool actually makes more sense than any other theory on creationism.
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You've heard this before but...Absence of disproof is not the presence of proof. I'm
not trying to
convince anyone there is
no God. I am only saying that
every religion in the
history of time has got it
wrong. I don't know what's right and I am okay with that. I just don't like other people pretending they do know and telling me how sure they are I am wrong.
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This is true. The Bible is just one big pile of BS after another. Its full of inconsistancies and improbabilities. I'm pretty amazed by how many people actually believe that some old guy built an arc big enough to support every non-marine animal species on earth.
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So why join a group that says it is the word of God!? (not saying just you, anyone)
Why not just do what is right for the sake of doing what is right in the hopes that if there is a God he would be cool with that?
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That is true. But may I ask the relevence of all this? Surely you don't think disproving The Bible disproves the existance of god, do you?
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It disproves the existence of God as Christians believe in Him. But I'm not trying to make that argument, it's pointless in my estimation.
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Science is important only in explaining how things work in our own reality. I doubt that some scientist is going to disprove the existence of the afterlife anytime soon.
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Since our own reality is all we will ever understand here, I am okay with them limiting their discoveries to that. As for the afterlife, kind of an oxymoron isn't it? We know what's after life, death. Nothing left to discover.
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The Bible shouldn't be taken literally at all, and since many Christians do obviously that presents a problem. The Bible has been used to justify many horrible things.
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The Koran is a better example of text being taken literally gone awry. And while I know what you mean, the bible itself says it should be taken very literally. And religion is responsible for more violence, death and destruction in modern history then anything or anyone else by far.
God's got some splanning to do...
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Again that is all true. And it makes many of the people who follow some kind of faith especially vulnerable. Christianity has made an art form of exploiting people with faith for centuries.
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I'm glad we agree on so much, but I'm not sure what you think I am arguing, because you are agreeing mostly with the point I am making. Which is...
Religion is significantly flawed and unnecessary at best and fatally destructive at worst.
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I don't think the concept of god is that simple.
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Occam's Razor would beg to differ.
There is no way to know how simple or complex God is.
God is a conceptual paradox. Faith is one hypothesis and to me it is the most flawed.