Music Banter - View Single Post - The Official Iraq War thread
View Single Post
Old 07-08-2007, 12:31 AM   #47 (permalink)
sleepy jack
isfckingdead
 
sleepy jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 18,967
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boo boo View Post
Rock N Roll begat R&B which begat Soul which begat Funk which begat Hip Hop. It's in The Bible.
02-bright_eyes-when_the_president_talks_to_god-myb.mp3
Folk song, proved you wrong.

Quote:
Originally Posted by boo boo View Post
If so then this brings in a new question. Who
gives a sh*t?
Who gives a shit? Thousands of parents have had their children taken
from them and killed for a lie. They were killed to better the lives
of corrupt politicians, you should care. Apathy is America's problem.

Quote:
Regardless of our reasons, Iraq would have been a threat down
the road (its good to look ahead) and Democracy should be spread to
the middle east, it dosen't have to be by force, but we should show
them how it works, and that it can work, right now we're giving
them the benefit of the doubt.
We aren't spreading democracy to the Middle East, you're ignorant to
history so the fact that you disagree with with my assertion that the
US doesn't support democracies doesn't really matter to me. Had you
maybe, read a book, something, you would agree as well. You don't
though, so you've got to let a 16 year old kid on a music forum school
you on history. It's pretty sad.

Quote:
You need to learn how to look ahead.
Iraq is the Iraqi's problem, not ours. They posed no threat to us.

Quote:
Do you understand the meaning of 'imperialism'? The British didn't
plan on pulling out of India. The Belge didn't plan on pulling out of
the Congo. We don't plan on pulling out of the area we stole from
Mexico in the 1850's, imperialism doesn't work like that.

Quote:
What state do you live in? I'm sure we got it by invading it.

Sadly, its capitalism at work, thats just the way it is. They would be
better under our rule than Saddams. Only they won't be under our rule,
because we have no plains of taking over Iraq.
Yes, capitalism has always been the root of imperialism. Lands were
invaded and used to supply natural resources for the invading
countries industrial machine. That is how it worked back then, and it
is how the US works now. We are ruling the Iraqis with an Arab facade.
The fact that you think 'arab facade' is fiction again shows your
ignorance to history. Read.

Quote:
I don't pay taxes and I collect disability, so just change that
to "you have to pay for it". Isn't democracy great?
Good for you, I'm not sure that democracy has a thing to do with you
collecting disability, that is more a socialist aspect of our country
than democratic.

Quote:
Yeah, because in the centuries since this nation was founded,
our polices never changed.
What about it changed? In the 1850's we did it with Mexico.
In the 1950's we did it with Iran.
In the 1980's we did it in Nicaragua and El Salvador, and that was
Reaganite politics, which George Bush practises.
Our policy didn't change. If it did, explain how.

Quote:
No we don't. That was one example of something we did. At this point
your hate for America has gone way beyond the laws of logic and common
sense. If we hate democracy so much, why do we govern ourselves with a
democracy? Wouldn't free trade be easier if all the nations were
democracies, wouldn't it be easier for us? Wouldn't it be easier for
US citezins and hell, wouldn't it be easier for those in power? What
f*cking reason do we have to "crush them"? Stop copying and pasting
stuff from MoveOn.Org.
One example? Iran, Nicaragua, El Salvador, we refused to support Fidel
Castro overthrow his dictator in Cuba because his dictator allowed US
companies to control Havana and make tons of money. Thats 4 examples,
and those are off the top of my head. I'd find more if I took the time
to search it. We hate democracies that aren't US supported, and when
you have the US controlling your democracy, it isn't really a
democracy. We overthrew Mossadeq because Iran set an example,
Nicaragua set an example, it is possible to have a functional
democracy without the US pulling the strings. That is why we overthrow
them. We are not in the democracy business. We are in the business of
installing pro-American leaders who will allow us to exploit their
countries. Why do you think we hate Hugo Chavez so much? He won't let
the US exploit Venezuelan oil. We can't have that, which is why we try
and assassinate him.

Quote:
And we helped Osama.

Its not like I've forgotten the bad things we have done. I'm telling
you dammit, this is different, this is not Mexico circa 1850, this is
not Iran circa 1950s, this is NOT Cambodia, its NOT Nicaragua. Its a
very different situation and you fail to realise that.
You fail to realize that history is important, mostly because you're
enormously uneducated in history so you cannot see that the things
which happen in Nicaragua in the '80s, what happened in Iran in the
'50s, is happening today. The circumstances are exactly the same. The
wording is essentially the same. Switch 'communism' to 'terrorism' and
change 'White-Man's burden' to 'spreading democracy'. Its the same
thing boo boo. But good job at not realizing how much of a role
history plays, you play right into the governments hands. If the
people in the 80's hadn't forgotten the Iran-Contra Affair, Reagan
would have had a lower approval rating than GW now. If you actually
knew your countries history you'd be skeptical, but the comments you
make later in this post, which I will reply to, just prove how
ignorant you are to your own country's history.

Quote:
I highly doubt we will make a mistake like that again.
You highly doubt it? The only reason it was a mistake was because the
public found out about it. The politicians were making out like
bandits, why wouldn't they do it again? I mean, they already have.

Quote:
You should be a fiction writer, because thats all this is.
Fiction? Are you really THAT ignorant to history? Lord Curzon, the
British foreign secretary said after WWI. "We must create an 'Arab
facade' ruled and administrated under British guidance and controlled
by a native Mohammedan, and as far as possible an Arab staff." This
should all, he continued, "be veiled by constitutional fictions."

This is exactly what we are doing today. The Iraqi council consists of
25 men, all appointed by the Director of Reconstruction and
Humanitarian Assistance Paul Bremer. So the government is ruled by 25
men, all appointed by an American representing American interests. Arab
facade? Of course it is. If you're too naive to see that, fine, but
don't say what I've written is 'fiction'. Aran facade is the exact
word used by Lord Curzon after WWI. Learn some history boo boo.

Quote:
We don't harbor terrorists, not with any knowledge of the
terrorists, where and who they are and what they intend to do. But I
guess what you mean by harboring terrorists is that they simply live
here, why is that? Because we welome so many immigrants? Nah, can't
be.
We don't harbor terrorists? Again, your ignorance to history digs you
into a hole here.

Orlando Bosch- Former CIA-backed terrorist who is responsible for the
bombing of a civilian Cuban airliner which killed all 73 people on
board, including 5 North Korean Olympic fencers, also responsible for
the bombing of a Polish civilian airliner, for which he was arrested
in 1968 in Venezuela. While on parole, he fled to the United States
with the help of the US Ambassador to Venezuela, when he arrived in
Florida he was arrested by the INS for violating parole, however, when
he threatened to reveal information about his work with the CIA,
George H. W. Bush pardoned him. He now lives in Miami, Florida. He has
been described by the FBI as an 'anti-Castro terrorist umbrella
organization' and the former Attorney General Dick Thornburg called
him an 'unrepentant terrorist'. The government protects him though,
which I suppose obliterates your point outright. But there's more.

Emmanuel Constant- Founder of FRAHP, a Hatian death squad responsible
for the deaths of over 4000 Hatians who supported ousted president
Jean-Baptiste Aristade. When Aristade was restored to power he fled to
the US, where he was arrested. However, once again he threatened to
divulge information about his workings with the CIA in the 90's, Bill
Clinton ordered him to be freed. Now he lives in Queens, New York.
That is twice that your point has been proven incorrect because of
your ignorance to history.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by METALLICA89 View Post
Ive seen you on muiltipul forums saying Metallica and slayer are the worst **** you kid go suck your **** while you listen to your ****ing emo **** I bet you do listen to emo music
sleepy jack is offline   Reply With Quote