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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
It's comments like this that make me wonder if you have read a word I have said about only looking at things from one perspective. So The Falls music isn't difficult to play? Well no sh*t , if you have ever bothered to read about them you'll find that people like them because they are chaotic & unpredictable with some damn good lyrics and never knowing what the band will come out with next whether it be Garage Rock , Techno or a Ballet. |
I'm not knocking them down for any of those reasons, I'm just knocking down your suggestion that they are more special than most bands.
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Not because people want a nicely played series of chords.
You could argue that The Jesus & Mary Chain just did easy to play 60s pop songs only with tons of drone & feedback , which is true , but they were the first to think of that idea in the first place , creating something different & original to counter the over produced rubbish of the mid 80s , do you see now?
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I personally think Psychocandy was downright unlistenable, but I admire their originality, I just get annoyed with you having a field day with insulting every band you're not particularly into.
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Again you seem to be under the impression i'm on about the playing side of things. When I say emotion i'm not talking about the guitarist scrunching his face up during the 58 minute solo of 'Hobbits from Hobbitland Part VII'
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Stop condesending to me like that, I
know what you mean by emotion, you don't have to spell it out to me.
What makes emotion? How do you determine emotional content in music? By lyrical content? Or by weither or not you like the guitar tone? Oh gee, I love Johnny Thunders guitar tone, what emotion.
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I'm talking about lyrics written from life experiences that I can relate to. The kind of song that sends shivers down your spine because you have lived it. THAT'S the kind of thing i'm talking about when I talk about emotion.
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I can write about my experiences too, simply writing about your life experiences instead of looking for other subject matter isn't really that creative... It's not a bad thing at all, but weither someone sings about their sexually abusive father or their favorite work of Tolken fiction, there are no rules for what lyrics should be about, and the kind of lyrics a song should be about...It would be boring as hell if everybody wrote exactly what The Fall wrote about.
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I don't have anything against long songs at all , you seem to be forgetting how much I enjoy Can & Hawkwind to name but 2. 'Wank' (which I never even said anything about I should add) to me is pointless showing off , (and I still maintain drum solos are the worst idea ever in the history of rock music BTW).
Go listen to the 10 minute version of I Am The Ressurrection by the Stone Roses , that has an extended guitar solo in it , do I hate it? no ... because it compliments the song brilliantly , it's funky and it just fits in beautifully , It's not John Squire drowning out the rest of the band while he goes off on a Jimmy Page ego trip , which sadly he decided to do on their Second Coming album.
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The thing is, just because its long, complex and unusual dosen't make it pointless soloing, you have to consider the style of music, the kind of composition, perhaps this is just the kind of music they are going for?
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Never said they didn't , Is this Boo Boo the prog defender looking for something to fight about that isn't there.
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Well I'm sorry, but I thought that was what you were implying.
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Thats a very narrow view of common sense
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I beg to differ... I don't deny that a musician can be passionate about his/her music, that would just be stupid. What I am denying is the idea that it affects the music and how good the music is, or that it can be measured to determine how good a song is or how talented a musician is.
Lyrics may matter to you, but being an AC/DC fan myself they mean absolutely nothing to me, they're just a bonus, if they're good, that just makes the song a little better, if they're horrible, then it's not even an afterthought if the music itself is great.