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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Maybe you don't look for those things but others do. Does that make them ignorant?
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If they think it makes or break or song, then yes, they are ignorant.
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No , it just means they listen to music for different reasons than you do.
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I listen to Yes and Black Flag for the same f*cking reason, I enjoy the music, nothing else matters.
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I like art as a whole , not just music. When I listen to music I want expressionism
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I love expressionism, but its not the only form of art that has merit.
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not nicely played chords that could be played by a robot
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I seriously doubt that a well designed, highly advanced A.I. would have a hard time playing what The Fall and Stiff Little Fingers play, especially when considering that a 9 year old can do it.
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I want to understand the way it's presented as a whole , where things come from, ideals , art , individuality , uniquness and yes passion , feeling & emotion.
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Many progressive rock bands don't lack in individuality, uniqueness or idealogy, not in the slightest... I said it time and time again that you can't measure something as trivial as emotion... Emotion is completely insignificant when it comes to quality performance, I can be a spinal surgeon who is passionate about what I do, but if I don't have the slightest idea about treating a fracture in the L4 Vertebrate, then regardless of how I feel, I am an unreliable surgeon.
I can take a dump and put a lot of "passion" into squeezing out that hard one, in the long run it's still just a piece of sh*t.
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Yes it takes talent to be a good musician, but it also takes talent to write good songs
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Indeed, and it takes a lot of talent to be able to write songs that don't conform to the average song structure (verse, bridge, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus, pentatonic solo, verse, bridge, chorus)...
Judging from what you have always implied, if a intro or outro lasts longer than 30 seconds, it is wank, if its a instrumental, it is wank, if there are more than four beats per measure, it is wank, if the note value that constitutes one beat is more than 4, it is wank, if it's not strictly pentatonic, it is wank, if counterpoint is used frequently, it is wank, if any instrument other than guitar plays lead, it is wank, if a chord progression is more than 3 chords, it is wank, if a song has more than one solo, it is wank, if a song qualifes as a epic or a suite, it is wank.
You think everything is wank.
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to choose original subject matter , to present something different as a whole and to keep doing it over a period of time.
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I don't recall prog bands not being able to do this.
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Perhaps you should get off your muso union horse once in a while & look at the whole picture.
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I don't consider myself a Muso... What I know is not advanced knowledge for professional musicians, because I am not a professional musician, I don't know music theory, what I know is common sense.