Originally Posted by Moon Pix

One thing thats often surprised me is that free jazz isnt mentioned ver often when refferring to pre-punk music. If you listen to the guitars solos by a lot of the bands that actually used them you begin to hear similarities between those and the sax solos you might hear on a John Coltrane album, lots of notes that don't fit into the songs key and just a very chaotic sound. Its pretty much the same idea as free-jazz soloing.

Black Flag is a good example of this.