thats just idiotic. Im fully aware of this, im not some 10 year old who recently found out Green Day are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Television to me ARE New Wave because of the overwhelming influence they've had on it. They in my eyes were not punk, they were art-rock which laid the foundations for what was to become New Wave. they formed in '73, they were around before punk was even in. Although they were the group that kicked off the CBGB scene i just dont think their sound is punk. Hells stuff with the Voidoids and Heartbreakers is punk, but with television...no. That doesnt mean no other band can be classified as punk. Your just clasping at straws knowing fully well i have a very valid point in the extensive differences between new wave and punk.