Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sorry to be the crotchety old man, and props to Carpe for trying, and I really hope it does succeed, but I'm just going to sit back and watch this implode under the weight of its own irony. I've been hurt too many times by this thread; there's no hope for us anymore. It got the house, I got the kids. It's over. Best of luck everyone - you'll need it.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.