Yes, Celladorina, there are so many potential horror-story scenarios that could come out of this Supreme Court ruling. I have been moved by female presenters on tv, explaining how their own daughters have been telephoning them in tears or in fury. That's not a common, across-the-board reaction to any legal decision; families weeping and consoling each other like that.
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This seems to me to be about white supremacy, there is not enough white babies being born due to a variety of reasons, so they bring this in to force white women to breed "their kind" and it also provides more corporate slaves. I am in no way an expert on this but I feel this is going to have a ripple effect worldwide.
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Interesting idea about the white breeding program! Luckily, I suspect the sentence in bold won't happen. I think Europe, and the world, has grown out of its post-war America worship and will see the US as what it is on this issue: a weird anomaly among developed countries.
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You argue your point very well, Batlord. I'm not an expert either in politics or US political history, but two things I would question are:-
i) While "the egalitarianism of the left" is surely a worthy goal, I don't see much evidence of socialism working well in the world, or of existing as a political force in the USA, so it is something of a hypothetical.
ii) Dreaming big about big changes is important in its way, but working from what there is in the US today, this looks to me like a great thing to strive for too:-
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...it was simply a kinder and gentler form of capitalist caretaking.
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Isn't this the kind of system that European countries have been fine-tuning for decades? Haven't they built longer-enduring, fairer societies by that approach than countries that have embraced socialism?
So pretty much as rubber soul says:-
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First of all, I'm not a Centrist and I'm guessing neither is Lisna: we're just being realists.
Seriously, do you really think anything is going to change if you burn the Supreme Court Building down? Until enough people unite, peacefully, and demand we're not going to take it anymore, nothing is going to change. That's not being a centrist, that's reality.
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I also share your attitude here, Batlord:-
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Sigh.
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I think we've been round this carousel of differing opinions before, so I would be happy to move along any time that you are ready to.