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Originally Posted by jwb
i mean even if you are going to pull out you could have done so in a way where you aren't literally being chased out of the country while the entire region collapses in a matter of weeks lol. Even the iraq withdrawal and ****, even Trump's withdrawal from Syria went smoother than this lol. You keep ignoring this and acting as if there aren't gradients to how rapidly destabilizing and demoralizing such an operation can be, rather than treating it as some absurd binary where you either demand the perfect solution or else accept pretty much the worst case scenario as your only option.
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No, you're ignoring the actual reality of Afghanistan to lazily spout vague nonsense about how it could have been done better, dawg. It wasn't a functioning state. It was being held together with American cash and drone strikes.
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I have a really hard time thinking people would have the same attitude about this mess if trump won and he was the one over seeing this nonsense.
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You remind me of how smug I was as an enlightened centrist right after I stopped being a right winger. Don't worry I'm sure your journey isn't over.
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honestly if we didn't leave nothing would've happened but the same old same old... This is definitely worse than that.
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Yes it's better that we perpetually destabilize the region and oversee a civil war killing thousands every year so long as hate for us drives recruitment. If you care so much I'll pay for a one way ticket to Afghanistan so you can go fight the Taliban.