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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
Not really, I said adopt this one thing China is doing. Which is kind of an authoritarian way of doing capitalism but not authoritarian across the board.
Right now? No. Because they started over. But they have more of an advantage than the Soviets did when they first started. Are you arguing that the USSR industrialized better than modern China?
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
Not really, I said adopt this one thing China is doing. Which is kind of an authoritarian way of doing capitalism but not authoritarian across the board.
Right now? No. Because they started over. But they have more of an advantage than the Soviets did when they first started. Are you arguing that the USSR industrialized better than modern China?
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Not exactly, but I'm saying the USSR probably industrialized as quickly as it would be possible to do so. If they opened themselves up to the global economy the way China did there would be a number of issues with that.
1) it goes directly against the state ideology which at the time was attempting to produce a system that
rivaled western capitalism, not imitated it.
2) industrialization was already happening and if they went the normal capitalist route it would've been a much more gradual process.
Then you get to the part about being less authoritarian... As in having actual elections and ****? The bolsheviks would've been voted right out of power. So the combination of embracing the market while being less authoritarian basically leads to just another western capitalist country. Which again.... You really do confident that after the "stage of capitalism" happens there will be another window for revolution? They thought this about western europe in 1848 and here we are still waiting.....