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Old 03-28-2021, 10:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok so I'm just starting out on this and already I can tell this is gonna be a headscratcher. Probably the reason why I didn't take to If on a winter's night...so lemme use this thread to try and understand it as I go along if I may:

Spoiler for a:
What does this mean:
From Cities and Memory 1:
But the special quality of this city for the man who arrives there on a September evening, when the days are growing shorter and the multicoloured lamps are lighted all at once at the doors of the food stalls and from a terrace a woman’s voice cries ooh!, is that he feels envy towards those who now believe they have once before lived an evening identical to this and who think they were happy, that time.

I thought maybe a different translation would help but it reads equally confusing in serbo-croatian. Anyone who comes to that city feels envy towards anyone who is melancholy? Regardless of which city they are in? Is that it? Anyone who comes to Diomira doesn't feel melancholy and is envious of those people, in other cities I presume, who do?

Also, why does he switch from a third person to first person in the opening chapter. Stylistic choice, to fuck with our heads, no reason?

More, from Cities and Desire 2: The city appears to you as a whole where no desire is lost and of which you are a part, and since it enjoys everything you do not enjoy, you can do nothing but inhabit this desire and be content....your labour which gives form to desire takes from desire its form, and you believe you are enjoying Anastasia wholly when you are only its slave.

Btw, the serbo-croatian version translates "since it enjoys everything you do not enjoy" as "since it has everything you don't have". Which is different. The Italian original could swing both ways I guess "essa gode tutto quello che tu non godi"?

Please to explain. Much thank you.


Hmm? I expect many more of these questions in the coming days. Thank goodness this is a short book.
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