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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
1) yeah - that’s a tribute to cage’s genius
2) yes - to the individual that’s all it is - and that interpretation becomes a physical part of the individual’s consciousness
Hmmm - well, I can’t say music is only the sound waves in one post and then music is only the interpretation of sound waves in another - so like the numeral number argument I have to make another concession. I was wrong.
But the brain is the interpreter or processor making it unique because you cannot process something without the processor. But then I have to ask myself well if you’re saying it’s just material what’s unique about it. If something is unique that means it’s intrinsically different. The difference is obviously a matter of function. I want to say it’s a problem with y’all not understanding the nature of consciousness but it’s actually very apparent that everyone involved in this discussion does have an understanding of the nature of consciousness. Everyone knows it’s some kind of network of neurons and synapses that isn’t very well understood. But even with all those concessions I wish I had some alliances with my contention that it’s incorrect and harmful to make a distinction between the brain and the mind because anything that distorts the Truth that consciousness is physical distances us from proper mental healthcare.
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whoo we're almost in agreement
you cannot pave a process without a processor, but that doesn't mean they're the some thing conceptually. It's also not unique that way (if that's what you mean); you can also have no music without sound waves. It is correct to make the distinction between mind and matter, and no scientists actually think that the mechanism behind consciousness isn't physical. I get you see a problem that it could confuse people into thinking otherwise though