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Old 01-10-2021, 12:47 PM   #72146 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
your argument is more with the English language

it's semantically natural to describe consciousness from a dualistic stand point

and it just so happens to also not matter
not from a dualistic standpoint, but as an emergent property

This is his fundamental problem: he doesn't know what the term emergent property means. He ascribes some sort of mysticism to it that is more properly attributed to dualism, where the mind is something independent of the brain.

The mind being an emergent property involves no such mysticism. Its a functionality that is utterly linked to and dependant on the brain. From wiki:

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In philosophy, systems theory, science, and art, emergence occurs when an entity is observed to have properties its parts do not have on their own, properties or behaviors which emerge only when the parts interact in a wider whole.
Its that simple. There's nothing ghostly or mystical about it. Scientists don't even have an understanding of how consciousness works yet but it is quite clearly an emergent property of the brain functioning.
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