I know all that. It’s called biology. It’s nature. And there’s nothing about any of it that is any less instinctual than ducking when someone swings at you with a baseball bat. The lol is framing it as nature vs nurture like it’s 1960. The only question is how does nature work. Going beyond the natural by definition implies it’s supernatural. The language is important because no matter how obvious it is to someone who understands it, it seems to remain completely counterintuitive to people who don’t. And unfortunately many people who don’t understand it work in fields like sociology, psychology, and education and their failure to understand nature and consciousness actually causes harm. If you and elph want to have an argument about something that was settled decades ago go ahead but the entire discussion is antiquated and built on a premise that’s at least 50% false.
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