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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
A vision isn’t nothing and the Biden camp has a much better vision. Unfortunately, I believe their path will also lead the other way. Trumpism is a quick bottoming out and it’s true there’s no guarantee of ever seeing light again. But Bidenism is an entrenched slow and steady train to the same old same old except environmentalism which is fast tracking itself into disaster and Biden will continue to enable the profiteers, even as he maybe even believes the different tune he’s singing. And that old school Americana doesn’t advertise its insanity like Trump does. It flies under the radar, perhaps making it even more insidious.
Where you and I will probably never meet is at my staunch and dogmatic stance that civil rights and sane environmental policies are impossible under capitalism. We will lose playing whack a mole with social, environmental, and economic justice. There’s no centrist position to work with. Destroy the planet in twenty years instead of ten? Maybe I’m insane not to take the extra decade but it’s just too much blood on my hands. I’m very reluctant to be a part of a problem. Even if it’s a lesser one.
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Originally Posted by Frownland
Not voting is voting. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
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Thank you for the well-reasoned answer, OH, and Frownland, characteristically cryptic.
Has it really been 4 years? I remember some heated debates about the virtues of voting back in 2016, so I'm going to dial back on my urge to bully people into voting Trump out. Number one, it's not my fight, and number two, I no longer have Chula fighting in my corner. I wonder what's happened to him: he was living in a mobile home, so I really hope he isn't on the West Coast.