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Old 08-29-2020, 05:30 PM   #7441 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks View Post
I will admit, after 4 years, much of Trump's behavior has become somewhat normalized for me, for better or for worse, if that counts as copping to it. If Obama (or Bush) had tweeted something like "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" amidst one of the protests during his Presidency, I'd have been pretty shocked. When Trump does it, I just think: "Yeah, that's just Trump being Trump". So allow me to clarify any bad implications I might have made - I don't think that Trump's response to the question of: "Will you accept the results of the election" is a normal one, based on precedent. But he said the same things in 2016 as he's saying now.
And ever since 2016 he's been conducting himself like an imbalanced sociopath. I mean Obama would never quote a segregationist law enforcement officer and say "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" but he'd probably also not send in gestapo thugs to Portland like Trump did. So implying that what Trump says is divorced from reality ignores actual reality once Trump's reality has normalized his bull**** and violence.

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To be fair, my argument, in context, was that, 'of course' he and his administration say "We'll see" if they accept the results of the election because there could be a reason to suspect fraud and if there is, they will litigate. Generally, the norm is for presidents to say something along the lines of: "Of course I will accept the results of the election - there is no institution more important than our democracy". It doesn't much matter, because those folks would also litigate if they found evidence of fraud or wanted recounts, like Bush v. Gore. In some sense, you could say the Trump administration is being more honest than other political candidates were in the past about their willingness to simply accept the results of the election.
It absolutely does you matter, you ****ing moron, cause there's no reason to suspect that the election will require litigation. He's inventing out of thin air the idea that the results will be illegitimate just so that he can object to them and because he's kept saying it so much apparently it's normalizing the idea to people like you, which was the entire point probably.

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I think Pelosi would. In fact, I think she might relish the opportunity.
I think you're a ****ing dupe.
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