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Old 02-06-2020, 07:36 PM   #4280 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
I gotta be real though

very little of what Sanders is proposing is going to make it through the Senate or the conservative courts

What happens to this movement when Bernie can't deliver?

I hope they get angrier and more involved...but there's that chance that it all deflates
I don't expect anything really.. democracy is horse ****... But it's worth a try. Could at least shift the overton window.

Simple fact is a Biden type also has very little prospect of getting his policies (such as public option) passed either, and will also be branded as a socialist for trying. So there's not even much pragmatic value to that approach, on top of being uninspiring.. Remember the fight over ACA? That was with the Dems controlling both branches of Congress. Things are even more polarized today, and Obama was still smeared as a communist.

There's no escaping that reality. But maybe if you start from a more extreme position, any potential negotiation you enter into will have to be further towards that goal than if you started in the center from the get go. Maybe right leaning compromises like the ones Obama and Biden worked out with the Republicans will be less likely. Or maybe it's all meaningless. Would at least be mildly interesting to run the experiment and find out.
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