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Originally Posted by The Batlord
Wrong. Most people have a self-preservation instinct that convinces them to demonize any thought process that doesn't conform. Sort of like demonic possession. We should kill the "survivors" to save our fellow man.
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No, Elph is actually right. Well, maybe for some people it's different, but I'm fully aware of the desperation of the human situation. Most people just feel like they get enough out of life to sit out the meaningless drag of it, I guess that's an instinctive will to live. Also, I think you idealise suicidal people: I agree that probably a higher percentage of them understands the meaningless of life, but there are also many of them who don't; a bullied teenager who suffers acutely and is suicidal does not necessarily consider human life meaningless. Also, I think many mass shootings are a misguided way of seeking some kind of glory, which means that those people don't understand the meaninglessness of life.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
I'm sure it'd help to escape an environment I hate but I'd rather not be alone in a new environment. I can't leave my bipolar disorder and trauma in Utah, that'll come with me and that's mostly my problem.
I'm just uncomfortable about it today. I guess the response just feels undeserved when I know I'm far from the only person here dealing with these same exact thoughts. Especially putting, what feels like, an unnecessary worry in people's hearts over something they have very little control over. I know I'd personally be devastated over a lot of people here if they died and now I put it out there that "Hey, if I stop showing up there's a high possibility that it was a suicide." Which, in it's self, is a triggering and depressing thought for people already dealing with it. I don't know, I guess I feel selfish.
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When you feel like the response is undeserved that's just the irrational negative thoughts out of self-hate that you talked about. And everyone is at least a little bit selfish. At least you're empathic enough to consider others, which makes you less selfish than most people