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Originally Posted by grindy
The US is especially ****ed up, sure, but I still think that a lot of the well-meaning liberal stuff just reinforces racial issues instead of fighting them.
I also don't think that only our choices matter. Obviously race, class, gender etc. play a big role. And they do in every country, being an immigrant I've encountered some dumb-ass ****, even in liberal Germany.
But we should still empower people to make the best of their lives, even and especially when they have limited leeway in doing that.
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I agree but it's kind of a strawman to really say that liberals think personal decisions don't matter. Yeah, people on here put a lot of stock into that but that's because a lot of them don't like admitting how much of their life is their fault.
I always see it as a the odds are stacked against you if you're this, this or this but that doesn't mean your goals are impossible. The defeatist attitude you're talking about is probably just as harmful as the boot licking polar opposite if not more.