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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre
You said black people don't know who ICP even is. That assessment I think is wrong. And you're trying to use your assumptions of black people as a crutch to invalidate my opinions. You use Utah as a well poisoning punch line and that I disagree with.
The useless point of 2Pac being more respected, that has nothing to do with the conversation, I don't think is wrong. You're being disingenuous about your intent, you're trying to say ICP aren't hip hop legends because you don't think people in the hood even know who they are. Which is a very ****ty point.
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I said either people in the hood don't know them or they are generally seen as a joke. You could extend that to hip hop fans in general and i still stand by that assessment.
I only brought up the difference in respect they get vs pac cause you decided to bash pac in your defense of ICP and Batlord directly compared them.
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MC Hammer is also considered a hip hop legend, absolutely. You're going to deny that now?
Fun fact: You don't have to like an artist's music to respect them as a legend.
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he's a hip hop legend based mostly on his commercial success at a time hip hop hadn't broken through as much in that realm. But he's not revered as a major contributor to the genre in terms of art or influence. He's exceptional strictly as a commerical success.