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Old 08-01-2019, 01:37 PM   #2261 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
Lenin after a certain point would side with you

after he took central control of all the Soviets

but Lenin was considered to be Right Wing by the Left Marxists

Marx was more focused on the flaws of Capitalism than he was with what was going to replace it, but in the Manifesto whats loosely described is an anarchist society
Marx made some comments here and there about how the state would ultimately fade away... But his vision was one based more on technological advancement and he spoke of a dictatorship of the proletariat to usher in this transition of power.

Modern day Communists sometimes try to rewrite characters like Lenin as right wing based on what they ended up doing, which nobody wants to be associated with. But they were far left in terms of ideology and as such drew nothing but derision from the right wing at the time as they represented an ideological purging of the ranks of anyone who wasn't sufficiently dedicated to their revolution.

There were actual anarchists, going back to the French revolution, such as guys like Proudhon, and Marx was continually at odds with them in one way or another ideologically.

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