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Old 07-21-2019, 08:02 AM   #33 (permalink)
jwb
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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky View Post
Yeah. Once a country has nukes all the bluster and sanctions and power from other countries are either worthless or vastly less valuable. They can turn cities into craters. Congrats. Diplomacy just became 90% less effective. NK just getting nuclear weapons was a loogie in our eye we can't counteract that makes us rightfully look weak.

And this is why his dealings with Iran are so pitiful.
Having nukes is the best way to guarantee the US won't invade and topple the regime. So they simply won't give that up, regardless of what we do. Sanction all you want, China will continue to prop them up. China needs NK as a buffer state between them and SK. The fall of NK would mean American troops on or near the Chinese border, not to mention millions of refugees that China and SK would be forced to absorb.

And I agree about Iran. The nuclear deal wasn't perfect. But it was better than escalating towards a possible war.

Iran will become a nuclear power, assuming we don't invade. This might lead to a middle eastern arms race. There is no really positive way out of the current situation. There's only bad and worse outcomes. Same with NK.

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Originally Posted by elphenor View Post
He did this after trying to bully him

it's a bit pathetic in that context

and nothing has changed

he drew a line and it got ignored
Yes I know he called him little rocket man (best international Trump diss ever) but the important part is he made up for it by calling him a "smart cookie."

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
That’s funny but one thing people who get indignant about trump saying America has killers same as Russia can’t really be serious. That’s like the truest thing any politician has ever said.
I loved that moment. He also said snitching should be a crime. He really has the swagger of a NY mob boss at times.
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