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Old 05-13-2019, 11:06 PM   #60835 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre
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**** off. The reason Cap is a character who's loved by everybody, even non-Americans, is because he's somebody who embodies everything that America should be about. And what America is about is ultimately what every country is about. Everyone is the same. Everyone wants truth, everyone wants honesty everyone wants someone who stands up for what they believe in even when that isn't convenient. That is the corniest of what superheroes are but that is why Cap speaks to people. That is why Superman speaks to people.

That's why Civil War was Cap's third movie, cause Cap doesn't stand for authoritarianism. America isn't supposed to stand for authoritarianism, but everyone with a brain knows it does, and that's why Cap was the very first one to stand up and say something about it. Cap is the one to stand for what America should stand for, and when America doesn't stand for it Cap is the one who stands up and says something FIRST. Because Cap doesn't stand for jingoism. Cap stands for integrity.

Tony Stark is a control freak who is obsessed with fixing everything that is wrong, whether that be inventing an AI that controls the world or believing that he can control the UN's rules about superheroes and what they can and can not do. Cap doesn't know whether or not that can work, but he does know that one day a situation will arise that will mean that he will have to choose between doing something and watching someone die if that means giving his agency to a government agency, and he can't accept that because when that days comes he will ignore the government and save that person.
No, no, Cap is the equivalent of Vince McMahon creating the intercontinental championship. He knows nationalism gets a cheap pop so he creates story lines around that. Cap is no different and was essentially created as propaganda. He is inhumanely 'perfect' and in that sense lacks any kind of character or character development that'd make him interesting. More or less he comes off as smarmy and self assured in believing that he's always doing the right thing where Ironman knows that he's flawed behind all of his bumptious posturing. The idea of 'perfection' in somebody who is a stereotypically nationalist and right wing is purely propaganda. He's meant to appeal to the right in the same exact way that Black Panther was meant to appeal to the left. In all honesty, as much as I prefer Tony because of his character being much more interesting, real and honest I can't side with either because they both are reflective of American issues. Cap being the self righteous patriotic culture of America that lives to serve as a symbol of heroism with out second guessing it until the evil liberals come for their guns (which is exactly the same point cap is trying to make) and Ironman being the image of the spoiled 1% who can hide behind their wealth and status to get away with anything along with being a representation of the evils of corporatism having too much control over policy. I'll ride with Cap when it comes to the civil war, but over all I'm siding neither and rooting for Spiderman for being the hero above both.
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Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

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